Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

02/15/2007 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE


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01:31:47 PM Start
01:32:51 PM Workforce Development: Health Care Industry
01:59:43 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                       February 15, 2007                                                                                        
                           1:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Johnny Ellis, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Overview: Health Care Industry Workforce Development                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DELISA CULPEPPER                                                                                                                
Mental Health Trust Authority                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on health care workforce                                                                        
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN PERDUE, Associate Vice President                                                                                          
Health Programs                                                                                                                 
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on health care workforce                                                                        
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROD BEATTIE                                                                                                                     
Alaska Workforce Investment Board                                                                                               
President, Alaska State Hospital and Nursing Home Association                                                                   
(ASHNHA)                                                                                                                        
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on health care workforce                                                                        
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL HOGAN, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                 
Department of Health & Social Services                                                                                          
Juneau, AK  99801-0601                                                                                                          
POSITION   STATEMENT:   Commented   on  health   care   workforce                                                             
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHNNY ELLIS called the  Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at 1:31:47  PM. Present at the call to                                                             
order were  Senators Davis  and Ellis.  The Chair  announced that                                                               
Senator Stevens would be here soon.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
^Workforce Development: Health Care Industry                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
LISA  CULPEPPER, Mental  Health  Trust, said  at  35 percent  the                                                               
health care workforce  is one of the fastest  growing job sectors                                                               
in Alaska and it will continue to be for the next 10 years.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
The Trust is  working with the Department of  Labor and Workforce                                                               
Development (DOLWD) to develop strategies  for making health care                                                               
workforce  development a  priority in  this administration  - not                                                               
for just  doctors and  nurses, but across  the whole  spectrum of                                                               
health care. Another  tool they are working on with  the DOLWD is                                                               
the student  loan repayment program,  not just for  state student                                                               
loans,  but for  people from  other  states who  have trained  as                                                               
professionals and  who might want to  come to Alaska to  work and                                                               
get  loan repayment.  She  said Alaska  is  competing with  other                                                               
states  because almost  every  other state  has  this program  in                                                               
place already.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:38:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KAREN   PERDUE,  Associate   Vice  President,   Health  Programs,                                                               
University of  Alaska, said in  the last year it  had prioritized                                                               
health care  development and she  was going to highlight  some of                                                               
the  partnerships  that Ms.  Culpepper  mentioned.  She said  the                                                               
University has prioritized the  health care workforce development                                                               
over the last five years -  because these are great jobs, there's                                                               
a shortage  in virtually every profession  and a lot of  money is                                                               
spent importing workers who could  be Alaskans. Enrollment in the                                                               
health care programs has grown 66  percent in the last five years                                                               
with  an increase  of 55  percent in  the graduation  rate. About                                                               
4,400  students  are  currently working  through  the  university                                                               
system across Alaska in health care programs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She   said  that   the  explosion   in   distance  learning   has                                                               
dramatically  helped  them  in doing  this.  Nursing,  radiology,                                                               
medical  laboratories, social  work,  psychology, human  services                                                               
and public  health are  robust programs and  are reaching  out to                                                               
rural  Alaska and  to people  who  also work.  While some  people                                                               
think  distance  learning  is  inferior,   but  in  some  of  the                                                               
professions where the  students must pass a  licensing exam, such                                                               
as nursing and  social work, the performance of  distance and on-                                                               
campus students  can be measured  and no difference can  be found                                                               
and,  "In  fact, in  some  cases  the distance  students  perform                                                               
better."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PERDUE said  that behavioral  health  is an  area where  the                                                               
Trust has had huge partnerships  with the University. Pages 16-17                                                               
of  "Pathway  to  Alaska  Health  Care  Careers"  covered  those.                                                               
Together  they  invested  money in  expansions  in  social  work,                                                               
psychology,  professional  development  and a  program  targeting                                                               
bringing  the kids  home. The  behavioral  health area  graduates                                                               
about 360 students per year and  the Trust has asked them to ramp                                                               
that  number up,  which they  are  talking about  right now.  The                                                               
nursing program has  had great partnerships with  the hospitals -                                                               
doubling its graduates. They have  gone from 1 nursing program to                                                               
11 and are graduating around 220  nurses a year. The industry has                                                               
donated about $4 million to the University to do that work.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PERDUE said  the state also needs more doctors  and the WWAMI                                                               
program is  being doubled. She  concluded by saying  their budget                                                               
reflects increases to  strengthen all these areas.  The Trust and                                                               
Hospital Association partnerships have  allowed the University to                                                               
organize these programs  in an efficient way to  meet the state's                                                               
need.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:44:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS  commented that the  double WWAMI buttons  his office                                                               
made  are  very   popular  and  that  nursing   programs  are  of                                                               
particular  interest to  him especially  in dealing  with poverty                                                               
and  getting people  off of  public assistance.  He asked  if the                                                               
folks trained in Alaska are staying in the state or leaving.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PERDUE replied that a lot  of students stay in Alaska and one                                                               
of the  reasons is  that the  program is  not in  Anchorage only.                                                               
Today more  students are  off the Anchorage  campus than  are on;                                                               
they are in communities like  Kodiak, Bethel and Sitka. The local                                                               
hospitals  and physicians  recruit  these  students very  heavily                                                               
from the  time they enter  their course work.  Anchorage students                                                               
get offers from  out of state that include high  bonuses, but the                                                               
numbers show that 95 percent of them stay in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:46:11 PM                                                                                                                    
ROD BEATTIE, President  of the Alaska State  Hospital and Nursing                                                               
Home  Association (ASHNHA),  thanked  the  committee for  passing                                                               
recent legislation  expanding the  WWAMI program.  He said  he is                                                               
currently a member of the  Alaska Workforce Investment Board, but                                                               
he has been critical of it  because it does not place significant                                                               
importance  on development  of  the work  force  for health  care                                                               
occupations and careers.  These jobs pay very well,  and there is                                                               
a  great  need  for  them   around  the  state.  These  jobs  are                                                               
environmentally friendly.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the  Alaska  Health   Education  Consortium  (AHEC)  is                                                               
attached to  the University's  School of  Nursing. Alaska  is the                                                               
only  state  that doesn't  have  it  attached  to the  School  of                                                               
Medicine. This is specifically geared  towards waking high school                                                               
students up  to health careers  and working with the  health care                                                               
community  to develop  those kinds  of jobs.  "But if  they don't                                                               
have a place  to go to get  the education they need  and we don't                                                               
find a  way to make  that available to  them, we'll lose  them to                                                               
other places." He  thought the DOLWD should carve  out some money                                                               
to  dedicate  toward  health  careers.   He  said  funding  is  a                                                               
competitive process and  they end up losing out to  all the other                                                               
things  that the  state  is  trying to  accomplish.  He said  the                                                               
University can't  do it by  itself. He represents 37  health care                                                               
facilities around the  state, but there is only so  much they can                                                               
do.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEATTIE said  his  rural members  are  really struggling  in                                                               
terms of trying to fill  some critical positions. For example, he                                                               
wanted to  see certification  occur on  rad/techs so  that people                                                               
are  safely  exposed  to  having  X-rays  taken  or  ultra-sounds                                                               
performed.  However,   he  said,   the  more   certification  and                                                               
requirements placed on those, the  fewer candidates there are and                                                               
the  more likely  people will  have to  travel even  more in  the                                                               
state  to get  services because  they can't  get them  locally in                                                               
smaller locations.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS mentioned talking with  Click Bishop, Commissioner of                                                               
the DOLWD, about dedicated funding  for training within the DOLWD                                                               
toward the health care fields.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEATTIE  replied that he  would be interested in  the answer,                                                               
because  he  had asked  that  same  question  and didn't  get  an                                                               
answer. Minimal money, if any, was going into that area.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS  asked if  the residency  programs could  be expanded                                                               
like the one at Providence Hospital.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEATTIE  agreed that would be  a good way to  keep physicians                                                               
here  once they  complete residency.  He thought  other hospitals                                                               
have that capability.  The accreditation has to  be addressed for                                                               
people going  through residency, however,  so they can see  it as                                                               
being a creditable program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  said the  whole  graduate medical  education  piece has  been                                                               
altered by  the federal government in  the last few years,  so it                                                               
is trickier to get into.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:54:09 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL HOGAN, Deputy Commissioner,  Department of Health and Social                                                               
Services (DHSS), said workforce development  is a priority of his                                                               
department that  cuts across all  of its divisions, not  only for                                                               
the  state, but  for  all  the grantees.  Through  a very  strong                                                               
collaboration  with the  University and  the Mental  Health Trust                                                               
Authority  significant  progress  was made  with  the  curriculum                                                               
within  the University  as well  as expanding  entry level  human                                                               
service options and bachelors and  masters degrees of social work                                                               
options. He is  happy to say that  there is now a  PhD program in                                                               
psychology  that  is jointly  governed  from  both UAA  and  UAF.                                                               
Clearly  the  expectation  they  set  with  development  of  this                                                               
program is that those individuals  practice in community settings                                                               
when they  come out of  the program.  That is a  significant step                                                               
forward for Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOGAN  said   they  need  a  number   of  behavioral  health                                                               
paraprofessionals and  professionals at all  levels in  all sorts                                                               
of settings  to not only bring  kids back to Alaska  from out-of-                                                               
state  into residential  psychiatric  treatment  centers, but  to                                                               
keep them from going out.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Before the  meeting started,  Mr. Hogan  said he  glanced through                                                               
the Alaska  Commission on Aging  draft state aging plan  and came                                                               
to  the page  on  workforce development.  Aging  folks will  grow                                                               
dramatically  over the  next 20-25  years. "We  need a  workforce                                                               
that can  keep seniors  in their homes  in their  own communities                                                               
and  if not,  we  need  a workforce  to  work  in long-term  care                                                               
facilities."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN  said he is enthused  about the direction the  state is                                                               
taking  and  strongly supported  the  bill  that increased  WWAMI                                                               
slots and the Governor's new  Health Care Strategies Council that                                                               
will focus  on what a health  care system should like  in Alaska.                                                               
Workforce development is a key piece.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:57:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  ELLIS asked  if it  has been  hard to  recruit and  retain                                                               
certain professional positions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN replied yes. Last year  the nurses were provided a two-                                                               
range increase.  That made a  big difference in  the department's                                                               
being able to recruit and retain  public health nurses as well as                                                               
nurses  in the  Pioneer Homes,  the Alaska  Psychiatric Institute                                                               
and  in  juvenile justice  facilities.  His  frustration is  that                                                               
filling  professional  behavioral  health positions  is  still  a                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ELLIS thanked  everyone for  their comments  and adjourned                                                               
the meeting at 1:59:43 PM.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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